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by oilerlord
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: General / Main Chevy Bolt Owners Forum
Topic: Bolt winter performance, an ICE comparison
Replies: 71
Views: 2891

Re: Bolt winter performance, an ICE comparison

Actually, no, it's not the same. A cold battery holds less energy than a warm one. I think ideal temperature is about 60-70F. So in winter, you get a double-hit to range. Your battery holds energy, yet it takes more energy to heat and drive (cold air is denser, causing more drag). I've also found t...
by oilerlord
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: General / Main Chevy Bolt Owners Forum
Topic: Bolt winter performance, an ICE comparison
Replies: 71
Views: 2891

Re: Bolt winter performance, an ICE comparison

The worst median mileage estimate we have seen was 152 miles. My family of four drove up to Freeport ME and back on December 31st, when it was about 9F, and we still got that range. In September and October, we saw median ranges above 300 miles. 238 seems quite fair and sensible. I absolutely under...
by oilerlord
Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: General / Main Chevy Bolt Owners Forum
Topic: Bolt winter performance, an ICE comparison
Replies: 71
Views: 2891

Re: Bolt winter performance, an ICE comparison

Now I'm aware that batteries don't hold a charge as well in cold weather, but to be honest I'm quite shocked at a loss of over 50% of range from what Chevy advertises. If I had purchased a "normal" EV with a "normal" advertised range of 75-80 miles, and I was looking at a range ...
by oilerlord
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Chevrolet Bolt Reviews
Topic: From a Leaf to a Bolt: Early Returns
Replies: 21
Views: 1901

Re: From a Leaf to a Bolt: Early Returns

I still get surprised by what some find imprtant, and what they don't care as much about when selecting a vehicle (or many things, actually). So she was down to the A3 and the Niro. Two very, very different vehicles that I normally wouldn't consider to be compared and cross shopped. If the Audi had...
by oilerlord
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:20 pm
Forum: Buying / Leasing / Dealerships
Topic: The January Numbers are in.
Replies: 17
Views: 705

Re: The January Numbers are in.

Musk made a low-volume prediction of 25,000 cars. The Bolt sold a tad over 23K in the U.S. in 2017. In the history of BEVs, how many other models have sold at least 23K - ever? Tesla 'S' 3 times (2017, 2016, 2015) - introduced 2012 LEAF once (2014) - introduced before 2012 So no other BEV has sold ...
by oilerlord
Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: Buying / Leasing / Dealerships
Topic: The January Numbers are in.
Replies: 17
Views: 705

Re: The January Numbers are in.

If GM is only making about 23,000 Bolts, and it isn't able to sell all of them, doesn't it make just as much sense that they aren't making more because they can't sell them? Sarcasm wasn't my intention. I'm not at all a disciple preaching the Word of Elon, just recognizing that at a time when analy...
by oilerlord
Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: Buying / Leasing / Dealerships
Topic: The January Numbers are in.
Replies: 17
Views: 705

Re: The January Numbers are in.

https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/ lists other EVs as well. Something from the above link - it looks like Tesla averaged almost 400 model3s a week in Jan 2018. Not even double the Dec '17 total, and a far cry from the 5000 a week Elon announced. When has the '5000/week date been...
by oilerlord
Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:48 pm
Forum: Other Electric Vehicles
Topic: I'm shopping for an EV. What's next?
Replies: 30
Views: 971

Re: I'm shopping for an EV. What's next?

My 2014 B250e had 6,000 miles on it when I bought it. It now has 25K miles. For what I was offered for my B250e, I could probably pick up a 2015 model with ~10,000 miles on it. Really though, I don't think it's worth the effort in making a sideways move like that. His offer to buy my car came out of...
by oilerlord
Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Other Electric Vehicles
Topic: I'm shopping for an EV. What's next?
Replies: 30
Views: 971

Re: I'm shopping for an EV. What's next?

That is the idea. It's why I'm asking for advice from the forum to help me choose. I recognize that there are members on this board with a lot more experience with EV's than I have who can help me.
by oilerlord
Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:32 pm
Forum: Other Electric Vehicles
Topic: I'm shopping for an EV. What's next?
Replies: 30
Views: 971

Re: I'm shopping for an EV. What's next?

I guess I'll just buy a used LEAF1 and drive that for a couple of years until I can buy what I want (there should be TONS of 2015-16 LEAFs on the market soon). I liked the LEAF2 I saw. I like the Bolt (I can always replace the driver's seat if I don't like it - $20K gives one a lot of leeway for mo...

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