GetOffYourGas
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Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:43 pm

I'm just curious how many people out there are tracking the Bolt with the hope of ditching gas completely. So how about it? Would it for you? Or would you still have a PHEV / ICEV in your driveway to complement the Bolt?

For me, I would still keep my PHEV (CMax Energi). Unless/until the CCS infrastructure approaches (or exceeds) Tesla's supercharging network, I just couldn't get everywhere I go with a Bolt. Especially in the winter. I'm in upstate NY, so I expect the winter highway range of the Bolt to be around 125 miles new. Probably 100 miles at end-of-life.
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier
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michael
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Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:24 pm

Not a chance. I will still need a Volt occasionally, and so will my wife.

I envision one of each. A tank of gas every month or so, fine by me.

And yes, I concur with your estimates. For me, with mild weather, I'm predicting 125 miles in winter, at EOL, at freeway speeds. 98 percent of the time that will be plenty, the days it's not I take the Volt.
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Tallon
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Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:40 pm

Absolutely. I recently moved across the country from Miami to Denver. My girlfriend and I have no family within driving distance and no real desire to travel anywhere further than an hour away (via car). The Bolt will us 100% off of gasoline.

SmartElectric

Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:43 pm

We have not bought gas in the past 8 months as we have two EV's, one is a Smart ED for a short commute, the other is a Tesla S which we drive daily and take on road trips. 35,000 km of gas-free driving in our two EV's so far.

Zoomit
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Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:56 am

I will definitely still need gas. In fact I took my Spark EV to the gas station today. Besides my other gas vehicles, I have a gas lawn mower, chainsaw, weed eater, and high wheel trimmer.
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:18 pm

Ew! I would never want to put a gas can in the back of a hatchback, where the fumes go straight into the passenger compartment.

I ditched the gas lawn tools long ago. I have an electric lawn mower, weed wacker, hedge trimmer (although I use hand shears more often than the hedge trimmer). I even upgraded the kicker motor on my 22' sailboat to electric (Torqeedo Travel, ~4HP equivalent).

I know I'm an edge case, but my goal is to be 100% gas free. Right now, I'm tantalizingly close. The Bolt *could* get me there. The shortcomings are not in the car, but in the infrastructure. I'll probably have to wait for the third generation, when cars can go 300 miles, and CCS chargers start to fill in many more of the gaps.
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier
2021 Mini Cooper SE Signature+

lukestuke
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Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:33 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:I ditched the gas lawn tools long ago. I have an electric lawn mower, weed wacker, hedge trimmer (although I use hand shears more often than the hedge trimmer). I even upgraded the kicker motor on my 22' sailboat to electric (Torqeedo Travel, ~4HP equivalent).


More details on the sailboat please!

GetOffYourGas
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Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:05 pm

Gladly. It's a 1976 O'Day 22, I sail on Oneida Lake in upstate NY. I basically use the kicker motor to get in/out of the marina, and then sail from there. If there is no wind, I just take a relaxed putt around Maple Bay. I've also used it as a trolling motor for fishing (yes, I fish off a sailboat, and yes it's as awkward as it sounds).

Here are the gory details of my story:

http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index. ... t=torqeedo

After using the motor for 5 summers, I will never go back to gas. The biggest thing is the hassle of winterizing and then bringing the motor back to life in the spring. It was time consuming and tiring. The Torqeedo jumps to life the first time, every time, whether it has been an hour or 6 months since its last use.
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier
2021 Mini Cooper SE Signature+

SmartElectric

Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:45 pm

We went completely EV in June 2015 when we got our Tesla S to compliment my Smart ED (aka "commuting appliance"). We've done 35000 gas-free km in both cars. Even here in Ontario, it's easy to go gas-free with supercharging and destination (hotel) charging.

BoltADrome
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Re: Will a Bolt get you off gas completely?

Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:58 am

Until I can buy an electric pickup, towing will always need gas. Long hauls will be impractical for the near term, without an EREV truck, which again would require gas for long distances. I average 2000 miles a year with the pickup as a second vehicle that's expected to have a job that only it can do whenever it get used. I put about 320 miles on it last month hauling stuff on 2 trips, but it may be several months before I need it again. If it was electric around town, I'd probably use it more, but an EV would be too limited when towing a camper trailer...
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