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Safety issues

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:26 pm
by trevmar
First, is it true some audible warning feature when in reverse will be mandatory on all EV's made this year? If so, can it be retro-fitted to a 2017 Bolt?

Second, if you come to a stop using regen only are the brake lights only on during deceleration? Would be nice if they stayed on, or better flashed like on a F1 car, while stationary at an intersection.

Thanks

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:29 pm
by RCTurner
I don't know about the sound in reverse but, the brake lights are only on when you are slowing down and not when stopped in "L". From a general safety standpoint you should have your brake covered when stopped anyhow. Obviously, this will turn the lights on.

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:26 am
by boltage
There is an artificial noise that is generated at low (parking lot) speeds. If you have the radio off and the windows down, you should be able to hear it while driving.

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:33 pm
by BoltEV
RCTurner wrote:From a general safety standpoint you should have your brake covered when stopped anyhow. Obviously, this will turn the lights on.

Why?

I enjoy the habit of "one foot driving" that I have developed with my Bolt EV (so much so that I have to remember to train myself the opposite way when not driving an EV).

On a flat surface, L stays at a complete stop. So I do not move my foot over to the brake, unless, I need it to stop (fast deceleration) or on an incline.

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:10 pm
by BarfOMatic
BoltEV wrote:
RCTurner wrote:From a general safety standpoint you should have your brake covered when stopped anyhow. Obviously, this will turn the lights on.

Why?

I enjoy the habit of "one foot driving" that I have developed with my Bolt EV (so much so that I have to remember to train myself the opposite way when not driving an EV).

On a flat surface, L stays at a complete stop. So I do not move my foot over to the brake, unless, I need it to stop (fast deceleration) or on an incline.


For safety reasons.
- So you don't get pushed into traffic (or the car in front of you) when you get rear-ended.
- So that you have big, red lights on the back of the vehicle as a "WAKE UP MORON - I AM STOPPED" sign.

Also, so a cop doesn't waste your time (and his) pulling you over to give you a fix it ticket for non-working brake lights. You won't get a ticket, but your time will be wasted. And if he's pissed, maybe he'll find another reason to give you a ticket.

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:37 pm
by BoltEV
BarfOMatic wrote:
BoltEV wrote:
RCTurner wrote:From a general safety standpoint you should have your brake covered when stopped anyhow. Obviously, this will turn the lights on.

Why?

I enjoy the habit of "one foot driving" that I have developed with my Bolt EV (so much so that I have to remember to train myself the opposite way when not driving an EV).

On a flat surface, L stays at a complete stop. So I do not move my foot over to the brake, unless, I need it to stop (fast deceleration) or on an incline.



For safety reasons.
- So you don't get pushed into traffic (or the car in front of you) when you get rear-ended. That point of view is a myth:

https://www.quora.com/What-should-you-do-if-you-are-about-to-be-rear-ended-by-a-car-approaching-at-high-speed-while-stopped-behind-another-car-Should-you-jam-down-on-the-brakes-as-hard-as-you-can-Hold-brakes-lightly-Release-brakes
- So that you have big, red lights on the back of the vehicle as a "WAKE UP MORON - I AM STOPPED" sign. Another myth

Also, so a cop doesn't waste your time (and his) pulling you over to give you a fix it ticket for non-working brake lights. You won't get a ticket, but your time will be wasted. And if he's pissed, maybe he'll find another reason to give you a ticket.
I don't know about your jurisdiction, but most traffic officers are not looking to give out "fix-it" tickets with no legal basis to do so!

But thanks for the advice anyway! :)

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:47 pm
by trevmar
I would think that "big, red lights on the back of the vehicle as a "WAKE UP MORON - I AM STOPPED" sign." can only help.

Why do you claim it is another myth?

And having to move your foot to the brake pedal when "one-footing" is certainly a pain.

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:35 am
by BoltEV
This guy trolls me on this forum and makes all sorts of contrarian posts in response to mine!

He was suspended after the mods had to censor one of his posts:

http://www.mychevybolt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8444&p=33345#p33345

I didn't realize it was him on this thread, until I then read another contrarian post to another post of mine in another thread.

I just added him to my "foe" list and I am done with him!

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:24 pm
by SeanNelson
trevmar wrote:I would think that "big, red lights on the back of the vehicle as a "WAKE UP MORON - I AM STOPPED" sign." can only help.

People run into the back of buses and semitrailers stopped with their brake lights on. If you don't even notice the car itself, the brake lights may not help a lot. Their most important purpose is to tell people that you're slowing down. The best you can do to alert inattentive drivers that you're already stopped is to flash your brake lights in the hope that it will trigger their peripheral vision.

Re: Safety issues

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:19 pm
by trevmar
So if they flashed like on a F1 car while stationary at an intersection, it can't hurt