bchalker
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Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:29 pm

2017 Premier w/48k miles.

Never bought an EV, buy have wanted one since first test driving a Leaf 4 years ago. It’s actually between this Bolt and. 2017 Volt Premier w/ACC @ 35k miles. Same price.

Should I be concerned on the limited remaining battery warranty and lack of Powertrain warranty? I know the battery is primary concern, buy Infotainment and such going out is also not minor :-)

Just curious on your thoughts.

PackardV8
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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:17 pm

Yes, no worries if the mileage is an individual with a long daily highway commute.

No, if the high miles came via a family driving Uber/Lyfft/urban delivery 24/7. All the suspension, brakes, steering, doors, windows, hatch, seats, take a pounding.

jack vines
My vehicles
2017 Bolt Premier Cajun Red
2011 Saab 9-4X
2005 Saab 9-5
1998 Saab 9000 Aero
2004 Ford F250 6.0 Turbo Diesel
1963 Studebaker Avanti
1956 Studebaker Hawk custom with a supercharged Packard V8
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BoltEV
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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:56 pm

PackardV8 wrote:No, if the high miles came via a family driving Uber/Lyfft/urban delivery 24/7. All the suspension, brakes, steering, doors, windows, hatch, seats, take a pounding.

Why do you say that?

I just purchased a new 2019 Bolt EV to replace my leased 2017 and I expect to pay off the loan in 18 months with income from Uber.

SeanNelson
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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:05 am

bchalker wrote:...It’s actually between this Bolt and. 2017 Volt Premier w/ACC @ 35k miles. Same price.

I'd think that the 8 year / 100K mile battery warranty should give you a fair bit of peace of mind compared to the much more complex Volt powertrain. And the Bolt is a much better driving experience, IMHO.

GetOffYourGas
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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:38 am

BoltEV wrote:
PackardV8 wrote:No, if the high miles came via a family driving Uber/Lyfft/urban delivery 24/7. All the suspension, brakes, steering, doors, windows, hatch, seats, take a pounding.

Why do you say that?

I just purchased a new 2019 Bolt EV to replace my leased 2017 and I expect to pay off the loan in 18 months with income from Uber.


Probably because a car used for Uber/Lyft has much more wear and tear per mile. The doors are opened/closed every few miles. People are constantly getting in and out of the back seat. Etc.

Then again, my Bolt is my family road trip car, and I imagine my kids are far harder on the back seat than most Uber/Lyft passengers. They often snack during trips, spill stuff, put their feet and sticky hands on everything, etc. You get the point. I'm sure the resale value of my car is much lower than one used just for a long daily commute. But that's ok by me, because I don't intend to sell it any time soon.
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PackardV8
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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:07 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
BoltEV wrote:
PackardV8 wrote:No, if the high miles came via a family driving Uber/Lyfft/urban delivery 24/7. All the suspension, brakes, steering, doors, windows, hatch, seats, take a pounding.

Why do you say that?

I just purchased a new 2019 Bolt EV to replace my leased 2017 and I expect to pay off the loan in 18 months with income from Uber.


Probably because a car used for Uber/Lyft has much more wear and tear per mile. The doors are opened/closed every few miles. People are constantly getting in and out of the back seat.
That plus most of the hack miles are constant stop-and-go on cratered city streets.

GetOffYourGas wrote:Then again, my Bolt is my family road trip car, and I imagine my kids are far harder on the back seat than most Uber/Lyft passengers. They often snack during trips, spill stuff, put their feet and sticky hands on everything, etc. You get the point. I'm sure the resale value of my car is much lower than one used just for a long daily commute.
For true. One adult making a long daily commute usually does little harm mechanically or cosmetically. Commercial use and/or kindergarten busing can trash one before the lease is up.

jack
My vehicles
2017 Bolt Premier Cajun Red
2011 Saab 9-4X
2005 Saab 9-5
1998 Saab 9000 Aero
2004 Ford F250 6.0 Turbo Diesel
1963 Studebaker Avanti
1956 Studebaker Hawk custom with a supercharged Packard V8
1955 Studebaker custom pickup with a Packard V8

BikingManiac
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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:05 pm

I have 47k miles on my 2017, which had its second birthday today. My typical drive is about 50 miles, mostly highway speed. The battery appears to have about 56-57 KWH of capacity, based on the energy use reported by the car and comparing it with the fuel gauge readings between 25% and 100% state of charge. I know this is not terribly accurate, but the same method when the car was new showed capacity of 57-58 KWH. A well cared-for 2017 should have years of value left in it.

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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:16 am

Check out Bolt owner News Coulomb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqB3od74sV0) reporting on his 70K miles 2017, and he has fast charged hundreds of times, not babied it as I intend to with mine. I'd say for most late model EV's it is more likely that the car will rust away before there is enough battery degradation to make you want to replace it. In fact it sounds like most packs from old EV's will be placed into large banks of electrical storage and go on for years longer.

I am expecting to drive my 2017 for a few years and then see what new vehicles arrive. If I trade it then I expect to get about the same as I paid for it. In a couple years there will be a lot of regular folks wanting an EV but without the budget to buy new. By 2023 the used BEV market is going to stay hot for a long time, and the value of an ICE car 8+ years old will be cut in half from lack of demand. Personally, and after months of researching, I couldn't be happier having chosen the Bolt EV. It could be the last car I ever buy, but probably not. In 5-8 years there will be a lot more new tech and safety features I'll probably want.
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SeanNelson
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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:22 am

marspilgrim wrote:In a couple years there will be a lot of regular folks wanting an EV but without the budget to buy new. By 2023 the used BEV market is going to stay hot for a long time, and the value of an ICE car 8+ years old will be cut in half from lack of demand.

There won't be anywhere near enough used EVs by that time to satisfy all the people who want one...

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Re: Should I feel confident buying a used high-mileage Bolt?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:37 pm

PackardV8 wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
BoltEV wrote:Why do you say that?

I just purchased a new 2019 Bolt EV to replace my leased 2017 and I expect to pay off the loan in 18 months with income from Uber.


Probably because a car used for Uber/Lyft has much more wear and tear per mile. The doors are opened/closed every few miles. People are constantly getting in and out of the back seat.
That plus most of the hack miles are constant stop-and-go on cratered city streets.

GetOffYourGas wrote:Then again, my Bolt is my family road trip car, and I imagine my kids are far harder on the back seat than most Uber/Lyft passengers. They often snack during trips, spill stuff, put their feet and sticky hands on everything, etc. You get the point. I'm sure the resale value of my car is much lower than one used just for a long daily commute.
For true. One adult making a long daily commute usually does little harm mechanically or cosmetically. Commercial use and/or kindergarten busing can trash one before the lease is up.

jack

I will respectfully disagree: Miles are miles!

Actually in my anecdotal experience Uber miles are much kinder to my Bolt EV!

Using "aggressive" regenerative braking (L mode and steering wheel paddle), I almost never use the breaks except when the car in front of me hits his brake lights or a few times when my speed is high enough to need them to stop for a red light. All the other times my "up/down" motion of my right leg is doing all the work.

So my brake pads must have been in pristine condition when I turned my lease in last Tuesday with 44,640 miles!

Yes, if you can find a used Bolt EV owned by "the little old lady in Pasadena" who ran up her miles on serene Sunday drives, BUY IT!

But since you do not know the particular habits of the previous driver, unless you buy your own leased Bolt EV, it is hit or miss.

That is why I rarely buy a used car; the previous owner had a problem with it!

Except back in the 80s when I bought a used 65 Mustang Convertible! hahahaha

I just purchased my new 2019 Bolt EV specifically for driving full time Uber and when it is paid off in 18 months, even though it will have more miles that my previous leased one, I expect that it will have very few maintenance issues except for requiring new tires!

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