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Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:00 pm
by SparkE
WetEV wrote:
Evoforce wrote:There are many of us that knew that the prices Evgo presented represented gouging and actively hammered Evgo to lower prices. Some people set back and accept whatever happens while others do something about it. Prices are better but still could improve. The next ones to watch out for are prices related to Electrify America. A court ordered system that appears will be a profit generator for the offenders. What could go wrong?


Eventually, competition. Do I stop at Brand X for $x or Brand Y for $y? Probably depends on if x>y or y>x. And who has the best coffee.


And, most importantly, where they are. As it stands, EVgo "owns" the N-S route up CA-99 (Bakersfield-to-Modesto/Stockton) because they have almost all the DCFCs on that route. EVgo and ChargePoint (which is basically a network of independently operating chargers) "share" the route up US-101 (although ChargePoint has more DCFCs, they are mostly the crappy 22kW/60A ones that are often broken) and NOBODY provides much service on I-5.

The installation of the CEC approved (and fund-shared) DCFCs up and down the state should change things a bit, as new vendors will be added to existing routes, as well as creating new coverage in "charging deserts", such as I-5. For example, "EV Connect" stations will be added up CA-99, and "Recargo" chargers will be added on US-101, introducing competition. There will finally be a series of DCFCs up I-5 (ChargePoint) and "CalTrans" (the Calif road maintenance department) will be installing stations along all 3 routes.

I just wish they'd get these stations IN and WORKING. They were approved and budgeted TWO YEARS ago!

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:24 am
by paulgipe
SparkE wrote:
WetEV wrote:
Evoforce wrote:There are many of us that knew that the prices Evgo presented represented gouging and actively hammered Evgo to lower prices. Some people set back and accept whatever happens while others do something about it. Prices are better but still could improve. The next ones to watch out for are prices related to Electrify America. A court ordered system that appears will be a profit generator for the offenders. What could go wrong?


Eventually, competition. Do I stop at Brand X for $x or Brand Y for $y? Probably depends on if x>y or y>x. And who has the best coffee.


And, most importantly, where they are. As it stands, EVgo "owns" the N-S route up CA-99 (Bakersfield-to-Modesto/Stockton) because they have almost all the DCFCs on that route. EVgo and ChargePoint (which is basically a network of independently operating chargers) "share" the route up US-101 (although ChargePoint has more DCFCs, they are mostly the crappy 22kW/60A ones that are often broken) and NOBODY provides much service on I-5.

The installation of the CEC approved (and fund-shared) DCFCs up and down the state should change things a bit, as new vendors will be added to existing routes, as well as creating new coverage in "charging deserts", such as I-5. For example, "EV Connect" stations will be added up CA-99, and "Recargo" chargers will be added on US-101, introducing competition. There will finally be a series of DCFCs up I-5 (ChargePoint) and "CalTrans" (the Calif road maintenance department) will be installing stations along all 3 routes.

I just wish they'd get these stations IN and WORKING. They were approved and budgeted TWO YEARS ago!


Agree. I've grown increasingly impatient. The previous contracts were bad enough. These contracts are taking forever and they are needed stations. The east-west routes are a must and there's no sign of them yet though locals say the EvConnect at Inyokern should start construction "soon".

Paul

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:19 pm
by BoltEV
I suggest you just chill!

Your stress won’t speed up the process.

Like what I did: chilled out for 30 years and now there is a subway that interconnects to a wide ranging rail network including to the beach at Santa Monica or Oceanside that is one mile from my home.

One day I will wake up and there will be DCFC’s all the way up on interstate 5 just like the ones at the Metro Universal City station (well they are L2 but they only chage $1 per hour for the first three hours and the remainder of the charge is free, while I ride the rails!)

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:15 am
by Evoforce
Some of us don't have another 30 years to wait! :shock: :)

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:42 pm
by Kirknc
We travel between Raleigh and DC occasionally and I wish EVgo would install some chargers around Richmond. The Richmond market has about 10 DCFC, two are Chevy dealers (with about 20kwh capacity) and the rest are Greenlots, of the eight Greenlots, one is working. The others have been broken forever. I have used EVgo in DC and Raleigh and compared to Greenlots they are wonderful.

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:16 pm
by njBoltEV
Hey EVgo Rep -- if you are listening here ...

Any information on when the high power charger at the Lucky's on Mowry in Fremont will be active?

It is still labeled a "prototype" and I think it has been in place almost a year.

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:17 am
by SparkE
No self-identified "EVgo Rep" has ever stuck her/his head in here.

I would suggest asking via plugshare app (leave a comment).

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:10 am
by ChargePoint
Hi!
We expect all ChargePoint DCFC stations on I-5 to be active by October 2018!
We shared that news in our main thread, however, I am not able to share any further updates at this time. :)

Here's that post here in the forum: viewtopic.php?p=31400#p31400

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:00 am
by BoltEV
ChargePoint wrote:Hi!
We expect all ChargePoint DCFC stations on I-5 to be active by October 2018!
We shared that news in our main thread, however, I am not able to share any further updates at this time. :)

Here's that post here in the forum: viewtopic.php?p=31400#p31400

Can you be specific as to the locations active in October 2018?

Re: Do not use EVgo fast chargers. No, seriously. Just don't.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:42 am
by SparkE
I would also appreciate some additional detail. When ChargePoint 'forum user' says "all ChargePoint DCFC stations on I-5", does that mean all the stations in the CEC plan, from Yreka in the North (near the Oregon border) down to Santa Clarita in the south?

If so, there appear to be 16 new ChargePoint stations on I-5 in the CEC plan - all 16 will be active by October 2018?

Where should we 'tune in' for any additional official notices on the status of these stations? (Sorry, I'm sure you've provided the URL in the past, but I can't remember it.)

Thank you!