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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Tue May 23, 2017 8:12 am

I'd rate the Chevy Bolt a 1. The fabric seats will make you a cripple. The styling is plastic, plastic, plastic. For $40,000??? The only thing decent about the car is the range and the trunk size. But who cares if after 20 minutes of driving, your left leg and hip and back are in pain? GM is in it for the credits -- not for providing customers with a viable, non-polluting vehicle.

I regret not having the patience to wait for delivery of the Tesla 3 and asking for my deposit to be returned. :cry:

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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Tue May 23, 2017 1:29 pm

I assume a rating of "1" is out of 5?? How long have you owned the Bolt? And have you tried "fixing" the front seats?

I am about to order one of the Premier Bolts

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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Tue May 23, 2017 3:33 pm

As an EV, and on paper: 9.5/10. After my test drive however, I'd rate it 6.5/10 for overall value. The seats & interior of the car scream "economy"- and don't belong in a $40,000 car.
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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Sun May 28, 2017 3:00 am

Diggle wrote:Do you guys think Chevy Bolt is better than Hyundai IONIQ?


Frankly, I do not understand Ioniq's purpose on the US market. Even as other manufacturers (who want a slice of action in the upcoming EV party) are sweating blood to come up with a 200-250 mile, highly distinct car, Hyundai surprises us with a 120-mile Ioniq EV that looks like a facelifted 2009 Insight. I am sure Ioniq offers great value for money and long warranty, but it can be a primary everyday car for maybe 1% of the US drivers.

The Bolt, as of May 2017, is the only available utilitarian EV, that's why it has to be better than Ioniq :D

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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Sun May 28, 2017 3:58 am

dDF wrote:
Diggle wrote:Do you guys think Chevy Bolt is better than Hyundai IONIQ?


Frankly, I do not understand Ioniq's purpose on the US market. Even as other manufacturers (who want a slice of action in the upcoming EV party) are sweating blood to come up with a 200-250 mile, highly distinct car, Hyundai surprises us with a 120-mile Ioniq EV that looks like a facelifted 2009 Insight. I am sure Ioniq offers great value for money and long warranty, but it can be a primary everyday car for maybe 1% of the US drivers.

The Bolt, as of May 2017, is the only available utilitarian EV, that's why it has to be better than Ioniq :D


Just because the Ioniq doesn't meet YOUR needs, doesn't mean that it won't be attractive to other buyers. 125 mile range would suit me fine (for almost $10K less), and Hyundai is working on offering a larger battery for 2018. As a data point, about 17.5 million cars were sold in the US last year. You mentioned 1%. 1% of 17.5 million is 175,000. I think that Hyundai would be ecstatic if they could sell 175,000 Ioniqs. Or 17,500 (10% of 1%).

There is a thread on "Bolt vs. Ioniq", and it is here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6442&start=40

(I have copied this post there - please continue discussion of Ioniq in that thread - thanks!).

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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Tue May 30, 2017 2:46 pm

dDF wrote:

Frankly, I do not understand Ioniq's purpose on the US market.


CARB credits are probably as valuable to Hyundai as they are to Chevy.
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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Tue May 30, 2017 8:39 pm

I am around 5K miles now and I still stand by ratings from about 3 moths back http://www.mychevybolt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5934

I would also give high marks for 1. Headlights and 2. Visibility from inside the car

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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Wed May 31, 2017 11:14 pm

I have 1800 miles on my Bolt LT and still rate it a strong 9 out of 10. At 6'-6" tall and 220 lbs., the Bolt as a small SUV fits me a whole lot better than many larger cars. Head room and leg room are excellent and 3 qualities of the Bolt that stand out to me are quick, quiet and better range than expected. I can achieve 260 miles on a full charge with no A/C even in very hilly terrain. I also get 250 miles of range with the A/C set to 74 in the same hilly terrain.
Seats are not a big problem for my wife and I nor is the firmer than normal ride. Torque steer is also very minimal compared to my Toyota Highlander hybrid. I love the extremely clear and effective dash screen and Apple Car Play allows me to use turn by turn navigation even with the center screen switched to use other functions. The only negative I have is the delayed charging features are unnecessarily complicated and yet still limited. Give me a slider bar for when I want the charge to start and another for how much charge I want and I'd be happy.
Nevertheless, I would buy it again in a heart beat.
Nice job GM and LG Chem.

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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:23 am

I already completed all of the JD Power and Chevy surveys about my opinion of the Bolt.

I rated it an 9 out of 10 overall.

8 out of 10 for range/charging. 9 out of 10 for speed/acceleration. 10 out of 10 for utility. 8 out of 10 for quality control/appearance.

Very happy with the car. Fulfills all of my local short distance driving needs and fills that gap well within my stable of cars.

I have absolutely no regrets leasing it and would recommend it to anyone with similar needs to mine in a car.
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2017 Chevy Bolt
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Re: Rate Chevy Bolt

Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:28 pm

oilerlord wrote:
dDF wrote:

Frankly, I do not understand Ioniq's purpose on the US market.


CARB credits are probably as valuable to Hyundai as they are to Chevy.



dBF- I'd agree with oilerlord there. but, as for the comment someone made on "getting a piece of the action," that's a completely incorrect presupposition.

Does anyone remember what happened when the Beetle first came on the scene?
It was so easy to maintain on one's own, people drove them into the ground, only to rebuild them again, and VW's revenue dropped through the floor.

In this case, ICEs=residual and long term income for the dealers and the manufacturers... There's currently no real money to be made in the EV segment of the market nor will there be as much opportunity in the future. EVs require far less maintenance than their ICE counterparts and as a result, currently cost manufacturers a considerable amount of lost future revenue.
Keep in mind that automotive manufacturers and oil companies have long been in cahoots in efforts to ensure each other's greater economic well-being. The ONLY reason this segment has met with any progress, is thanks to the collaborating efforts of Tesla founders.
(Partial credit to Nissan/Renault as they brought it in at a very affordable rate)

I'm not expressing this because I'm some kind of Tesla fan(although for the time being, I am a great supporter), but rather, GM and many other manufacturers will (mostly unofficially) fight the change, tooth and nail.
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