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Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:02 am
by SparkE
BoltEV wrote:Just pointing out, you never really know the quality, care and handling of any used car, unless you are buying out your own lease! ;)


Which is why I have an OBD reader, and torque pro, to show me the kWh capacity of the battery. I used it to reject seveeral SparkEVs on the used market before finally buying my wife the one that I eventually found with low battery degradation. (I really don't care what the mileage is, so long as the car is in good shape - I would bring it to a mechanic for evaluation).

Sure, it takes extra effort and a little equipment and a little extra time, but my motto has always been "be prepared" (and things generally go better). Or, as a gunnery sergeant used to tell me, "remember the 6 Ps : proper preparation prevents piss poor performance".

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:32 pm
by PackardV8
BoltEV wrote:BMW made the strange decision to limit the gas tank on its "range extender" to about one gallon, instead of the 9 gallons on the Chevy Volt. I guess it gives them some sort of California CARB "points" but is way too limiting for me! I am glad he likes it though.
FWIW, he chose not to get the range extender. He and I discussed it and agreed the REx option on the BMW sort of negated the idea of owning a BEV for urban everyday use. He and his wife fight over who gets the i3, to the point they're going beyond the allowable mileage allowance. Yet another reason he would have bought.

jack vines

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:48 pm
by BoltEV
PackardV8 wrote: He and I discussed it and agreed the REx option on the BMW sort of negated the idea of owning a BEV for urban everyday use.

What is REx option?

Please explain this sentence.

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:49 am
by SparkE
BoltEV wrote:
PackardV8 wrote: He and I discussed it and agreed the REx option on the BMW sort of negated the idea of owning a BEV for urban everyday use.

What is REx option?

Please explain this sentence.



BMW i3-speak for Range Extender (i.e., the petrol engine that kicks in when the battery runs out)

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:34 pm
by BoltEV
SparkE wrote:I am hoping that prices will be around $10-12k.

The only used Bolt EVs you are going to find at that price range, if at all, in the upcoming 12 months are going to be those used for Lyft/Uber driving with 100K+ miles on them

SparkE wrote:
BoltEV wrote:
PackardV8 wrote: He and I discussed it and agreed the REx option on the BMW sort of negated the idea of owning a BEV for urban everyday use.

What is REx option?

Please explain this sentence.



BMW i3-speak for Range Extender (i.e., the petrol engine that kicks in when the battery runs out)
Thanks for that explanation!

“Petrol” - ?? Do you live in the British portion of the San Francisco Bay Area?

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:37 am
by SparkE
I worked in the U.K for awhile, I watch a lot of British TV shows (Graham Norton "Chat" Show is amazingly funny about half the time and amusing most of the other 50%) and I have quite a few Canadian and British (and Australian) friends.

Sometimes I call it petrol, other times gas. I also often use the term that most people around the world use to describe "Soccer" : football. But then I used to watch Soccer games on the Spanish channels back in the day, before it was common to see them broadcast with English commentary in the States, so ... futbol.

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:56 am
by BoltEV
Thank you for the favour of a reply! :lol:

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:39 pm
by BoltEV
Did anyone else get one of these “July 4th - turn in your lease” letters?

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:18 pm
by sgt1372
BoltEV wrote:Did anyone else get one of these “July 4th - turn in your lease” letters?


Yes, I got one. Waiting for the followup letter offering specific terms for extending the lease or a buyout.

Re: So are we all going to end up buying our cars after our leases are up?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:09 pm
by BoltEV
sgt1372 wrote:
BoltEV wrote:Did anyone else get one of these “July 4th - turn in your lease” letters?


Yes, I got one. Waiting for the followup letter offering specific terms for extending the lease or a buyout.

My letter turned out to be a fraud!

After driving 25 miles to that specific dealer, their "offer" for a new 2019 Bolt EV turned out to include the amount of the last five monthly lease payments, even though I was surrendering possession of the lease!

When I asked the salesman, who with a straight face made that offer, if he was kidding; he replied: "well, you do not have to accept our offer!"

The fifth dealer I approached 45 miles away down in Orange County sold me one for $3,200 less than the "best price" of the "letter" dealer and I kept my Lease and continued to drive out the remaining miles on the lease; making the remaining payments moot!

I returned the leased 2017 Bolt EV to my original dealer on Tuesday with 44,640 miles and started to drive my brand new 2019 Bolt EV for Uber on Wednesday.

In a separate new thread, I will comment about the apparent better battery mileage of the 2019 model.