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New article about leases

Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:11 pm

GM says it now offers Chevy Bolt EV lease ‘nationwide’ for $329, but good luck getting it

https://electrek.co/2017/04/12/gm-chevy ... ationwide/

michael
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Re: New article about leases

Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:26 pm

Electrek is a Tesla fan boy site.

They currently have 2105 articles about Tesla and 72 about General Motors. The Tesla stock price is on their front page.

There are plenty of Bolts available. I could buy a hundred this afternoon if I wanted to.

Another spin they could have put on it would have been

For 1559 down and $329 a month, the effective cost of a Bolt is now down to $363 a month in California, slightly higher outside of CARB states. Since the Bolt qualifies for $2500 clean air rebate in California, it actually costs less than the Volt which costs only $10 a month less but qualifies for only $1500 clean air rebate.

At this price, only determined Tesla die-hards will want to wait for a Model 3



But for some reason they chose to express it differently
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Re: New article about leases

Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:11 pm

... or people who want a car that looks great and they can drive more than just regionally.

Having driven the Bolt, I like it. I like it a lot. And as I drive a Smart currently, calling the Bolt ugly would be silly. But a car with dubious charging options, and a maximum charge rate of 150 mph where it IS available, that's the killer for me.

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Re: New article about leases

Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:51 pm

tedkidd wrote:... or people who want a car that looks great and they can drive more than just regionally.


Nailed it. I also like the Bolt a lot and may even buy one, but the Tesla has a lot more going for it than the Bolt does. The supercharger network has no realistic competition at this point.

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Re: New article about leases

Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:47 pm

ssspinball wrote:Nailed it. I also like the Bolt a lot and may even buy one, but the Tesla has a lot more going for it than the Bolt does. The supercharger network has no realistic competition at this point.

It depends where you are at.

Here in the Denver area there are 2 SuperChargers. There are 3 DCFC stations here and MANY more level 2s about town. Buying a Tesla here only gets you access to 2 more chargers if you use adapters. Hell, there are a lot of the CHAdeMO chargers around here to make a Nissan more worth it than a Tesla.

I'm sure your part of the US is well saturated with SuperChargers so Tesla is probably best for you.
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Re: New article about leases

Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:53 pm

The map of superchargers is impressive, but so is Verizon's map of 4G LTE coverage. However neither make any difference to me. 200 mile range will do the job 99% of the time with convenient home charging; and if I want to go to South Dakota, which I never will, I'll take my Volt and not worry that ATT has only 3G coverage.
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Re: New article about leases

Tue May 02, 2017 1:44 pm

gbobman wrote:Here in the Denver area there are 2 SuperChargers. There are 3 DCFC stations here and MANY more level 2s about town. Buying a Tesla here only gets you access to 2 more chargers if you use adapters. Hell, there are a lot of the CHAdeMO chargers around here to make a Nissan more worth it than a Tesla.


Teslas can use L2 also, so that can be ignored for comparison purposes.

The 2 superchargers in Denver have 10 plugs between them. The 3 DCFCs have ONE plug each for a total of 3 plugs. So even in Denver city limits the supercharger network wins! And you also have to consider the very real possibility (as anyone that frequently uses DCFC can attest to) that the one DCFC plug will either be occupied or broken when you get there. Since there's no backup, what are you supposed to do then? Twiddle your thumbs?

Now when you zoom out from Denver, you can see how easily a Tesla can travel outside the metro area in every direction a major highway leads, whereas with CCS you can basically head North or South. If you head any other direction you are dead in the water.

Saying "I'll just use my gas car for those trips" is besides the point.

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The lease offer is real

Fri May 19, 2017 2:14 am

I got a quote in writing today. I just had to be forceful.

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Re: New article about leases

Mon May 22, 2017 10:02 pm

gbobman wrote:
ssspinball wrote:Nailed it. I also like the Bolt a lot and may even buy one, but the Tesla has a lot more going for it than the Bolt does. The supercharger network has no realistic competition at this point.

It depends where you are at.

Here in the Denver area there are 2 SuperChargers. There are 3 DCFC stations here and MANY more level 2s about town. Buying a Tesla here only gets you access to 2 more chargers if you use adapters. Hell, there are a lot of the CHAdeMO chargers around here to make a Nissan more worth it than a Tesla.

I'm sure your part of the US is well saturated with SuperChargers so Tesla is probably best for you.


I live in the Denver area and wondered where the Level 3 chargers are located that you have found?

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Re: New article about leases

Mon May 22, 2017 11:00 pm

Juniper49 wrote:
gbobman wrote:
ssspinball wrote:Nailed it. I also like the Bolt a lot and may even buy one, but the Tesla has a lot more going for it than the Bolt does. The supercharger network has no realistic competition at this point.

It depends where you are at.

Here in the Denver area there are 2 SuperChargers. There are 3 DCFC stations here and MANY more level 2s about town. Buying a Tesla here only gets you access to 2 more chargers if you use adapters. Hell, there are a lot of the CHAdeMO chargers around here to make a Nissan more worth it than a Tesla.

I'm sure your part of the US is well saturated with SuperChargers so Tesla is probably best for you.


I live in the Denver area and wondered where the Level 3 chargers are located that you have found?


I don't want to get waaaay off-topic here (it would prob be best to continue any discussion in a "local" forum post) , but to answer your question about DCFCs "in" (closest to) Denver :

Download/sign up for PlugShare (.com). Looking in PlugShare, the two CCS DCFCs are at :

- BMW of Denver Downtown (1030 S Colorado Bd, Denver; ChargePoint,
- Tyans Nissan (780 S Havana St, Aurora; , EVgo )

There are a few more EVgo DCFC chargers in the periphery (around Denver - ?suburbs?)

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