Allelectric
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:25 am

GernBlanston wrote:Drove the Jupiter II a hundred miles yesterday and concentrated on the "problems" with suspension & seats the whole way.
Suspension...? Excellent compromise between absorbing bumps and great feel/handling for a small car packing half a ton of batteries!
Seats...? Firm, supportive, comfortable. I have yet to hear a complaint from a single rider/driver in my car.
The first 4 minutes of my initial test drive told me this.
I'm 5'10", 175 lbs, averaging 40 miles/day, drive an LT, have a Clipper Creek 40 at the house.
To potential buyers:
Be objective about your test drive. Drive for 30 minutes.
If you don't like the car on the test drive, don't buy it. It will not change after you buy it.
This isn't rocket science.
Don't expect sympathy from satisfied Bolt owners because you bought the wrong car and now
want to do nothing but gripe about what an awful car it is. It's not.


30 minute test drive, you don't live in Canada do you ;)
Test drives of any length are still virtually impossible here. Not a demonstrator anywhere in the whole Province of British Columbia to my knowledge. It's not rocket science you are right, it's Mission Impossible here.
I like the ride, I hate the seats. The seats however do not make it an awful car they simply spoil what could be a home run for me. Why do you think people who voice negative "opinions" are looking for sympathy. They are just as valid as positive opinions. And please appreciate that not everyone had or still has the ability to test drive a car at all, never mind for 30 mins plus.
My apologies to anyone who read this already on another thread. I'm commenting on the same post that was put on this and the bumpy ride thread.

electricbolt
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:27 am

I saw the Bolt for the first time yesterday and was very eager to sit in the front seat. For whatever its worth the 5-10 minutes that I sat in the Bolt Premier the seats seemed quite comfortable.

Allelectric
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:37 am

electricbolt wrote:I saw the Bolt for the first time yesterday and was very eager to sit in the front seat. For whatever its worth the 5-10 minutes that I sat in the Bolt Premier the seats seemed quite comfortable.


If you don't mind sharing, what is your height, build.
Having read just about every post on this and another forum about the seats, and the size of the people commenting on them (those that have shared) I believe that if you fit in the seat it is acceptable or even comfortable for some. However if you do not, it is a nightmare. The seats are so scantily padded that if you don't fit in the narrow base and back plastic shells you have hard, angled areas pushing on your hips,thighs and lower ribs/torso. Pressure points with no padding to dull them down.
If you can, please drive the car for as long as you can. I wish I had had the chance.
All that said, if the seats work for you the car is awesome.

electricbolt
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:50 am

I am 5'7" and 165lb.
I told the salesman about how people are complaining about the seats on the internet forums and he told me the seats are a problem for people who are about 220lb but he added people with that weight pretty much have problems in any type of seat like an airplane etc.
I have a 2010 VW Golf MK6 Tdi and those seats I find quite comfortable and after sitting in the Bolt for 5-10 minutes they seemed to have the same comfort as the Golf.
Hopefully I can test drive the Bolt to see how it feels after sitting in it longer.

JAL1
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:32 pm

From what I have read, the Bolt seats use thin seat technology similar to that used in new aircraft. Thin seat technology in turns means more seats in a modern aircraft. In the Bolt, thinner seats means a roomier interior despite a small outside footprint. The downside is that this thin seat technology may not be for everyone.

At 5 foot 7, 140 pounds I find the seats are comfortable after seven months of ownership, including long distance travel. I DO note that I wear my wallet and phone in my front pant's pockets, a habit that I adopted to reduce the chance of being pick pocketed while traveling in Europe. I DO note that I do a little wiggle with my legs when I get into the Bolt; this re-positions my legs and relieves any side pressure on my thighs. The Bolt is the only car that I have ever owned that requires this movement.

Other car manufacturers have installed very large seats in their vehicles to accommodate the growing size of the average American. My wife and I are probably in the minority as we find the massive seats in our now decade old luxury SUV uncomfortable on long trips. They are simply too big!

I wonder if Chevy may wish to increase the thickness and size of the Bolt seats just a tad to accommodate a larger percentage of the population -- at a loss of some interior space.

Allelectric
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:44 pm

electricbolt wrote:I am 5'7" and 165lb.
I told the salesman about how people are complaining about the seats on the internet forums and he told me the seats are a problem for people who are about 220lb but he added people with that weight pretty much have problems in any type of seat like an airplane etc.
I have a 2010 VW Golf MK6 Tdi and those seats I find quite comfortable and after sitting in the Bolt for 5-10 minutes they seemed to have the same comfort as the Golf.
Hopefully I can test drive the Bolt to see how it feels after sitting in it longer.


I would love to speak with your salesman. What a load of rubbish he is spouting. I'm 220 lbs and I love the seats in our Kia Soul EV (a similar size vehicle) and I've never had an issue in any car I've owned with the size of the seat, and I've had some small cars, (Nissan Sunny, Renault 5, mini metro, Mk 1 Ford Escort, Triumph TR6, MGB GT, I could go on). I've also flown 10 hours each way to the UK 3 times this year on Air Transat. I was quite comfortable the whole time.
The problem with the seats is that they are simply too narrow and have virtually no padding.

LeftieBiker
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:08 am

How do you know when a car salescreature is lying or making stuff up? Their lips are moving.


How do you know when they AREN'T? I'll let you know if that ever comes up.

bluebolt
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:33 pm

I like the seats in my Bolt Premier. I find them to be completely comfortable. I'm 5'8" and 160 lbs and have zero complaints about the seating. Actually, as I said, I like it. For better or worse, the seating appears to be an idiosyncratic, individual-specific issue.

GernBlanston
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:19 pm

bluebolt wrote:I like the seats in my Bolt Premier. I find them to be completely comfortable. I'm 5'8" and 160 lbs and have zero complaints about the seating. Actually, as I said, I like it. For better or worse, the seating appears to be an idiosyncratic, individual-specific issue.

+1

And as for 'sales creatures', ours was awesome. No hassles, no BS, no issues.
Knowledgeable, professional, courteous, EV savvy. The guy who gave us our
test drive at dealership #1, not so much, so we went to dealership #2 and
had about as good a car buying experience as could be imagined.
If it's not foggy
and your foglights are on
you are a doofus.

bluebolt
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Re: BOLT SEAT ISSUE - no DATA thread

Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:23 pm

GernBlanston wrote:And as for 'sales creatures', ours was awesome. No hassles, no BS, no issues.
Knowledgeable, professional, courteous, EV savvy. The guy who gave us our
test drive at dealership #1, not so much, so we went to dealership #2 and
had about as good a car buying experience as could be imagined.


It's great that your buying experience was so good! My experience was the opposite. I suffered through a prolonged and miserable sales experience. The Chevy salesman whom the dealership threw at me knew nothing about EVs, lied and/or misrepresented various parameters of the lease (claiming repeatedly, for example, that the disposition fee was zero and the maintenance plan covered four visits -- both of these statements were false), committed a material error into the legal documents which he promised to correct but never did (leaving it for me to fix), refused to arrange for a ten-dollar pickup for me from a nearby subway station (while at the same time bragging to me about how much money he made), more often than not didn't respond to my emailed questions, and generally radiated a comprehensive spectrum from neglect to insult to apathy.

The price at this dealer was better than any other dealer that I went to, which is why I made the purchase, but now I regret doing so. Given my frustration and anger, in retrospect, I would have been happier paying a reasonably higher price for better service elsewhere.

The Bolt is the first American-manufactured car I have ever leased. As an exclusive purchaser of Japanese and German cars up until now, I never thought that I'd buy domestic. But the Bolt converted me. I absolutely love the Bolt. I show it off to all my friends. It is the best car I have ever driven, hands down, including luxury models like BMW and Mercedes. Driving the Bolt is literally a joyful experience.

But words fail me in trying to describe how frustrating, angering, and depressing was the experience of buying the Bolt. I will certainly not lease again from the same dealership. And despite how much I like the car, I will have to think very hard about whether I want to return to GM when the lease is up, simply because I don't want to ever undergo the Chevy buying experience again.

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