trevmar
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Re: "Auto" HVAC questions

Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:51 am

Sunroofs are not compulsory on any vehicle and you always have the freedom to say no to them (unless perhaps you are buying used).

They are just a way of improving ventilation, how they are installed and their reliability is another consideration.

Oh, and of course, you have the freedom to express your opinion........

PackardV8
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Re: "Auto" HVAC questions

Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:09 pm

trevmar wrote:Sunroofs are not compulsory on any vehicle and you always have the freedom to say no to them .


Are you sure? Many today have sunroof/moonroof as STANDARD EQUIPMENT today. The following is just a random sample:

The Acura ILX is a small luxury sedan that’s loaded with premium features, and Acura had the good sense to include a moonroof among the list of standard equipment.


The standard moonroof in the BMW X5 is of the panoramic variety,


a one-touch power moonroof with tilt comes standard on the Civic EX Sedan and above, and on the Civic LX-P Coupe and above.

The Porsche Panamera is so opulent that a moonroof should be compulsory… and it is. The Panamera 4-door sedan . . . standard tilt and slide panel,

A power glass moonroof comes standard in all trim levels of the Volvo V60,


jack vines
My vehicles
2017 Bolt Premier Cajun Red
2011 Saab 9-4X
2005 Saab 9-5
1998 Saab 9000 Aero
2004 Ford F250 6.0 Turbo Diesel
1963 Studebaker Avanti
1956 Studebaker Hawk custom with a supercharged Packard V8
1955 Studebaker custom pickup with a Packard V8

trevmar
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Re: "Auto" HVAC questions

Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:24 pm

Seems those expensive, failure-prone, rattling, leaking, headroom-stealing abortions must be quite popular after all, or all those car makers could be wrong.

To get back to the subject of the topic, ventilation is necessary and if there is no 'automatic' ram airflow effect then something else will be needed

PackardV8
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Re: "Auto" HVAC questions

Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:17 pm

or all those car makers could be wrong.


Does anyone really believe the mass market makes choices in their best interest? No, the consensus of this BEV forum regularly reiterates the mass market is terminally flawed, Manufacturers have to sell what most choose to buy when gasoline is sold at below infrastructure costs - huge quad-cab trucks and giant 7-passenger SUVs, with sunroof/moondroof.

Even Tesla prefers to sell their big sedan and big SUV for $100,000+, rather than their unobtanium $35,000 sedan.

jack vines
My vehicles
2017 Bolt Premier Cajun Red
2011 Saab 9-4X
2005 Saab 9-5
1998 Saab 9000 Aero
2004 Ford F250 6.0 Turbo Diesel
1963 Studebaker Avanti
1956 Studebaker Hawk custom with a supercharged Packard V8
1955 Studebaker custom pickup with a Packard V8

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