Zyr
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Winter Tires

Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:16 pm

My Bolt has 215/50R17 standard tires when I got it this summer. I will need winter tires living in Eastern Canada - it has been suggested by dealer that I get 16” rims and 215/55 R16 for winter. Thoughts/comments from the community? Thanks.

SeanNelson
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Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: Winter Tires

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:08 pm

I bought a second set of OEM wheels and put Michelin X-Ice XI3 tires on them. I had these tires (in a different size) on my previous car, a Prius C, as well. I'm in Vancouver, where we don't get a ton of snow - but I've been pretty happy with the Michelins on those occasions where I go up into the mountains.

Zyr
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Re: Winter Tires

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:39 pm

Thanks for the note , did you get the tire pressure sensors as well?

SeanNelson
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Re: Winter Tires

Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:04 pm

Zyr wrote:Thanks for the note , did you get the tire pressure sensors as well?

Yes, I did, along with the tool that you use to allow the car to "learn" the new sensors when you switch tires:

https://www.amazon.ca/AUGOCOM-El-50448- ... oding=UTF8

marspilgrim
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Re: Winter Tires

Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:24 am

I need tires by Thanksgiving also but I'm not thrilled about a winter set, swapping them and storing them. But I have the advantage that I am pretty much only local commuting and running errands in the suburbs of Chicago, about 20 miles a day typically. I can charge at home at L2 so I'm going to give up some range and get the Nokian WR G4. That will cover the winter extremes we seem to be moving towards and should do much better in the wet too.
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JeffN
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Re: Winter Tires

Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:10 pm

marspilgrim wrote:I need tires by Thanksgiving also but I'm not thrilled about a winter set, swapping them and storing them. But I have the advantage that I am pretty much only local commuting and running errands in the suburbs of Chicago, about 20 miles a day typically. I can charge at home at L2 so I'm going to give up some range and get the Nokian WR G4. That will cover the winter extremes we seem to be moving towards and should do much better in the wet too.

Please let us know how they work out.

I got Goodyear WeatherReady tires back in March at the tail end of winter. They are in a similar “winter-rated all-season” market niche. I only drove briefly in snow for a day while on a trip to Canada. They seemed to do well but I’ll have more experience this winter. I’m happy with them so far.

marspilgrim
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Re: Winter Tires

Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:06 am

Early update. I've had the Nokian WR G4's about 120 miles so far, enough to wear off the mold release. They look nice and actually appear to be a little wider than OEM but they're the same size so it could be an illusion. So far I'm satisfied with the purchase.

Dry Traction: Definitely more dry traction but can still be overpowered if I hammer it. Temp's here are hovering around 50 degrees so not yet into temp's that begin to harden an all season compound. Dry autumn roads these days.

Wet Traction: Not really any wet roads to speak of yet but I'm sure it will be better than OEM just from the design. I'll update in the future.

Ride Noise: If I try hard, with the radio off, I can imagine a hint of more tire noise but since my radio is always on there's no difference for me.

Ride Comfort: I haven't noticed any difference on my commute but I don't travel over enough variety of surfaces to give you good data.

Cornering/Steering: I feel a bit more confident on the mild corners around here and that may increase as time goes on and I push them more. I feel a little more tire squirm but these all weather treads are deeper than OEM so it's likely that.

Tread Life: Much too soon to tell but I drive on the more aggressive side of average. In the old days I wasn't much on using brakes and went in to corners pretty hot (long time Mazda driver) but now with the regen I'm slowing down anyway which I also love. Overall I'm fine with losing 30 miles of range for the better traction and safety. Also because I hate being cold I'm not shy about blasting the heat so until perfect spring EV weather I won't know how range is really affected. And I've never really attempted to get max life out of my tires. These are rated at 60K but if I get 45K of solid traction year around I'll be happy, that's still 5 years of driving for me.

Snow Traction: Not yet encountered, will update in a future post.
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PackardV8
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Re: Winter Tires

Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:33 am

Up here in the frozen ass-end-of-nowhere, there's no such thing as an all-season tire. In higher elevations where snow and ice can be expected we regularly see vehicles upside-down in straight, flat stretches of road. Pull over to help and invariably, all four-feet-to-the sky are more than half-worn all-season tires.

Two things I've learned:

1. Brand-name winter tires (Nokian and Glslaved are my current choices) mounted and balanced on their own wheels are worth the cost and the hassle. Example, a trip is planned and there's an early snow. The tire stores are slammed and can't get you in before you have to leave, Yes, it's a minor hassle to switch over yourself, but you can leave on schedule and travel safely.

2. When winter tires are worn below half the original tread depth, begin the search for new ones. If one should run them down to the legal 3/32" wear bars, that's an accident looking for a place to happen.

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bobo
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Re: Winter Tires

Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:22 pm

Does anybody run studs? Don't you think you get better traction with studs, vs the non studded winter tires?

marspilgrim
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Re: Winter Tires

Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:19 am

You'll have to research it but I'm pretty sure that studded tires are only for roads that are always snow and ice covered and in that case yes, studs are the best bet (driving within reason and the laws of physics). On cold, dry pavement that a lot of regions have most winter days I think studs might have worse traction than non-studded winter tires, and possibly not even as good as a quality all season that still has good tread depth. But I've never lived anywhere that required studs or chains in winter months.
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