willk58
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Pigtail for Bolt

Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:00 pm

My lease just ended on my 2017 Volt. I used a pigtail to connect the charging cable to 220v. Buying a new Bolt today. Can I use the same pigtail to plug in the one that comes with the Bolt? Is it okay to routinely charge to full or should I only go 80 or 90%? Thank you.

Pigwich
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:05 pm

Yup, as long as it's the regular clipper creek inside charger that's been coming stock.

https://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/c ... width=1200

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That's a picture of one. I use the pigtail on my 2017 and it's a godsend when we AirBnB. Pop it in to an old dryer plug, stove, alligator clips in the fuse box :-) those chargers gobble up 220 and love every minute of it. Even ended up at a house up in the mountains that had a problematic 110V outlet outside that ended up being a surprise 220V miswire! Turns out I was the only person this accident was happy for.

Do it. it's cool. 3 days of charging from zero completely blows. This puts you back in overnight land.
(´・(oo)・`)

theothertom
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:09 pm

willk58 wrote:My lease just ended on my 2017 Volt. I used a pigtail to connect the charging cable to 220v. Buying a new Bolt today. Can I use the same pigtail to plug in the one that comes with the Bolt? Is it okay to routinely charge to full or should I only go 80 or 90%? Thank you.

Your new Bolt will come with an EVSE (which most people, including me, mistakenly call a charger) which you plug in an outlet and plug the other end into your car. I'm not sure what you mean by "pigtail".
There's a big debate about whether you should charge to 100% or not. You can search the web but you'll get a lot of yes and no answers.

SparkE
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:11 am

theothertom wrote:
willk58 wrote:My lease just ended on my 2017 Volt. I used a pigtail to connect the charging cable to 220v. Buying a new Bolt today. Can I use the same pigtail to plug in the one that comes with the Bolt? Is it okay to routinely charge to full or should I only go 80 or 90%? Thank you.

Your new Bolt will come with an EVSE (which most people, including me, mistakenly call a charger) which you plug in an outlet and plug the other end into your car. I'm not sure what you mean by "pigtail".
There's a big debate about whether you should charge to 100% or not. You can search the web but you'll get a lot of yes and no answers.


A 'pigtail' is a "very short extension cord that does socket conversion" (say, plugs into a NEMA 10-30 socket {it has a 10-30 plug} and offers a 14-30 socket). In this case (standard EVSE delivered with the Bolt), the pigtail plugs into {some form of 240V socket} and offers a NEMA 5-15 socket {standard 120V, 15amp socket}, which allows the standard Bolt EVSE to charge at 240V (and can be a dangerous 'pigtail' to just leave sitting around, as it allows any 120V appliance to plug into 240V socket).

SparkE
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:13 am

willk58 wrote:My lease just ended on my 2017 Volt. I used a pigtail to connect the charging cable to 220v. Buying a new Bolt today. Can I use the same pigtail to plug in the one that comes with the Bolt? Is it okay to routinely charge to full or should I only go 80 or 90%? Thank you.


The EVSE delivered with the Bolt is reported to be the same world-wide (except plug differences) and accepts both 120V and 240V, and will work on both.

YMMV, don't believe me, it ain't my fault if it fries your house.

theothertom
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:33 am

SparkE wrote:A 'pigtail' is a "very short extension cord that does socket conversion" (say, plugs into a NEMA 10-30 socket {it has a 10-30 plug} and offers a 14-30 socket). In this case (standard EVSE delivered with the Bolt), the pigtail plugs into {some form of 240V socket} and offers a NEMA 5-15 socket {standard 120V, 15amp socket}, which allows the standard Bolt EVSE to charge at 240V (and can be a dangerous 'pigtail' to just leave sitting around, as it allows any 120V appliance to plug into 240V socket).

Thanks for the explanation

gpsman
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:56 am

Yes. The official safe input voltage for the EVSE is 96 volts AC to 266 volts AC.

Cool it can have that wide of range.
Sucks it can’t go to 277 volts.
(I have 277 volts at work.)

Doc
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:24 pm

I just got my 2019 bolt recently and though the Charging cable that came with it looks like the one in this post it clearly says 120v on the other side. Is this what you all have been supplying 240v to without issues?

sibelman
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Tue May 14, 2019 11:50 pm

I'm thinking the EVSE provided by Chevy with newer Bolts can't (safely) be used with 240V outlets. This one came with my (May 2018) Bolt.

RichCapeCod
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Re: Pigtail for Bolt

Wed May 15, 2019 3:16 am

Doc, your question:

"I just got my 2019 bolt recently and though the Charging cable that came with it looks like the one in this post it clearly says 120v on the other side. Is this what you all have been supplying 240v to without issues?"

The answer is, yes. Been doing it since I came home with my Bolt (2019 Premier), around two weeks ago.

This is the place I bought mine. I walked in. I find the whole subject very confusing, so, if you're gonna buy, call them and tell them exactly what you want!!

https://shop.quickchargepower.com/Adapters_c8.htm

Rich

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