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Here is a series of videos by a science reporter, that takes on myths about climate change and debunks them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqD ... AP&index=1
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ferox wrote:Yeah, global warming. The most freezing summer I remember.
You realize that comments like this betray a real lack of understanding about how climate works, right?
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ferox wrote:Yeah, global warming. The most freezing summer I remember.
You realize that comments like this betray a real lack of understanding about how climate works, right?
Actually, it doesn't. "Global warming" is about climate change. The effects of climate change are more than just warming. It includes changes in the jet stream, changes in ocean temps and currents, more rainfall (such as the spate of 30-days-of-rain-in-one-20-hour-storm-induced floods in France, the U.K. and the U.S. (among other countries) over the past 5-6 years). It also includes colder than normal winters (in some locations) and both wetter and drier seasons (floods and droughts). 'Global warming' is a misnomer - it's all about climate change.

And besides, it was a joke - lighten up.
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NeilBlanchard wrote:Here is a series of videos by a science reporter, that takes on myths about climate change and debunks them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqD ... AP&index=1
An informative series of short videos - thanks for posting the link.

Let the scientists work together to figure out the details of climate change - keep the politicians out of the discussion. In the end, we each need to determine what contribution we are willing and can make to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide and air pollutants we cause to enter the atmosphere. For the year 2016, I estimated the amount of carbon dioxide operating my home and vehicles (2002 Honda Accord, 1999 Chevy Silverado PU Truck) would have introduced into the atmosphere. It amounted to 23,516 pounds of carbon dioxide. Then I factored in the impact of changes I made to reduce my carbon dioxide contribution. Change 1: I replaced the gasoline powered Honda and Truck with 2 electric Spark EVs . This reduced my carbon dioxide contribution by 11,581 pounds per year by eliminating gasoline. Change 2: I installed PV solar on my home to provide power for charging the EVs as well as my home. This reduced my carbon dioxide contribution by an additional 2978 pounds. Change 3: no change - I continue to use the same amount of natural gas which contributes 5862 pounds of carbon dioxide per year. The changes I did make reduced my carbon dioxide contribution by 62%!

Pulling the two gasoline powered vehicles off of the road also helped reduce air pollution but, probably very little since both vehicles had excellent smog test reports. But, every little bit helps!
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SparkE wrote:
SeanNelson wrote:
ferox wrote:Yeah, global warming. The most freezing summer I remember.
You realize that comments like this betray a real lack of understanding about how climate works, right?
...it was a joke - lighten up.
Sorry. But I've heard so many people use isolated local weather events to try to refute climate change that it's become something of a trigger for me.
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SparkEVPilot wrote:
The changes I did make reduced my carbon dioxide contribution by 62%!

Pulling the two gasoline powered vehicles off of the road also helped reduce air pollution but, probably very little since both vehicles had excellent smog test reports. But, every little bit helps!
So, in "pulling the vehicles off the road" - does that assume you had them crushed? If you merely sold them to someone else, rest assured; they are still on the road spewing CO2.
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SparkE wrote: "Global warming" is about climate change. The effects of climate change are more than just warming. It includes changes in the jet stream, changes in ocean temps and currents, more rainfall (such as the spate of 30-days-of-rain-in-one-20-hour-storm-induced floods in France, the U.K. and the U.S. (among other countries) over the past 5-6 years).
By definition, climate is described as "The weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period." At what point did the differences in a microscopic sample of 5-6 years of weather patterns become referred to as "climate change"?
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oilerlord wrote:
SparkEVPilot wrote:
The changes I did make reduced my carbon dioxide contribution by 62%!

Pulling the two gasoline powered vehicles off of the road also helped reduce air pollution but, probably very little since both vehicles had excellent smog test reports. But, every little bit helps!
So, in "pulling the vehicles off the road" - does that assume you had them crushed? If you merely sold them to someone else, rest assured; they are still on the road spewing CO2.
The truck sits in my driveway and is used very little - like occasional dump runs. My daughter, who lost her car, uses the Honda to go to work. I do what I can to reduce my gasoline carbon dioxide contribution. Others - like my daughter - are responsible for their own.

I do not disagree with your statement. Gasoline's carbon dioxide contribution will continue to increase unless, every time a person takes delivery of a new vehicle, he / she has their current vehicle removed from the road and crushed. Even purchasing an EV would require the same crushing requirement to have a net decrease in gasoline carbon dioxide contribution. It ain't gonna happen! What I do expect we will see is older worn out vehicles, that are replaced with a new or newer used vehicle, being pulled off of the road and crushed. The assumption is the gasoline carbon dioxide contribution for the new / used vehicle would be lower due to the vehicle having better mpg that the vehicle being crushed.
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Fair enough, we do what we can.
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oilerlord wrote:
SparkE wrote: "Global warming" is about climate change. The effects of climate change are more than just warming. It includes changes in the jet stream, changes in ocean temps and currents, more rainfall (such as the spate of 30-days-of-rain-in-one-20-hour-storm-induced floods in France, the U.K. and the U.S. (among other countries) over the past 5-6 years).
By definition, climate is described as "The weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period." At what point did the differences in a microscopic sample of 5-6 years of weather patterns become referred to as "climate change"?

Wel, I choose a different emphasis of the same definition :

By definition, climate is described as "The weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period."

In general, it has been hotter and drier where I live over the past 5-6 years (California, much hotter and a drought) compared to historical norms (over my lifetime here). So, the climate has changed. It may not be permanent, but it has changed.

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